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 Radioactive message to the future2002-05-11 03:59
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Here's a rather fascinating report from a panel of experts called together to figure out how to construct appropriate warning signs around a huge nuclear waste dump to be constructed in Nevada. The idea is to somehow show the importance and the significance and the danger of the site, even to people 10,000 years into the future who potentially might be living in a totally different culture, no longer speaking English or understanding our current symbols.

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13 May 2002 @ 13:43 by magical_melody : Flemming-lots of info
Please give a short summary: what are the spikes? I understand that it is nuclear waste dump and I scanned info, so much though, and after 10 minutes I became dizzy. Are the spikes simply markers? What do you feel or think would be some steps/solutions as community members, we may effectively take? Peace, Alana  

13 May 2002 @ 14:02 by ming : Spikes
They were trying to communicate that, hey, this is something huge and threatening, so go away, and don't for a moment think there's something valuable burried here. So they figure they have to construct something really massive, but made of cheap materials, and not in any configuration that looks like it is celebrating or honoring anything. So they came up with various symbolic designs that would be on a massive scale, but that would look sort of erratic and uncomfortable. My favorite was the design above. They would have a layer of concrete with a nice regular grid on it, and then some huge threatening spikes appearing to break through it, giving the impression of something really dangerous under ground. What I found interesting was the anthropological considerations and the communication aspects. They sort of figured they might potentially be communicating with some Mad Max tribe of savages who in the future would be staring at this, and who wouldn't be able to read the signs, and who maybe just were looking for something valuable to steal. And they're trying to discourage such guys so they don't start digging into the nuclear waste and taking pieces of it home to their cave. Its kind of unnerving that they're even considering such a scenario so prominently.  

13 May 2002 @ 14:38 by magical_melody : Okay, that is what I figured, thanks.
I feel there must be another way of resolving this and looking at alternatives to how we can be cleaning up the mess and constructing beauty instead of and constructing spikes, and perpetuating fear. I think people stop short and land too easily in decisions and formulas that are so limiting. Alana  

14 May 2002 @ 00:07 by aaronb : radioactive waste disposal
It is interesting that there is a declared offical concern about radioactive waste and what to do about it. Yet two technologies that have proven to work to eliminate radioactive waste,which has not been given any priorty treatment.One a aggressive organisms that consumes this waste to an inert by product without harm to its own preservation.The other a devise in the the form of radionics probes placed in the mass to be treated. This alters the electron isotope configerations into ones that are non toxic.This was developed by a US scientist and humanitarian named Galen Hieronymus,which was one his of many leading edge technologies he pioneered.  

14 May 2002 @ 01:25 by scottj : Absurd madness
This is one of the most absurd projects I have ever heard of. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. Only a bunch of scientists could perpetrate something like this. And they get taxpayers money to do it?  

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