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 War is Peace2003-11-04 11:03
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A few Orwellian words about war from "1984":
"The war, therefore, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are set at such an angle that they are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that it exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and has been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three superstates, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed forever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This -- although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense -- is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE."
George Orwell [1903-1950], whose birth name was Eric Blair, was an intense novelist and political essayist; a socialist, he fought in the Loyalist forces in the Spanish Civil War, and was a critic of totalitarianism, including Stalinism. He also foresaw the rise of our present post-post-modern bureaucratic authoritarianism.

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4 Nov 2003 @ 11:16 by islander : WAR IS PEACE !
hmm - I think I just found out what oxymoron means !!!  

4 Nov 2003 @ 17:04 by Alice @ : When War is Peace
or a ride Through the Looking Glass of the "Axis of Evil" and what Alice found there:

Saturday, November 7 – 3:15 pm (and Sunday, November 9 - 4:00 pm) {link:http://www.arclightcinemas.com/directions_parking.jsp|ArcLight Cinemas} will feature Condor: Axis of Evil (by Argentinean director Rodrigo Vasquez) - US Premiere.

Condor was the codename for a special operations network developed by the military dictatorships in Argentina, Chile and Paraguay and allegedly supported by Interpol, the CIA and the US State Department during the 1970s and '80s, dedicated to silencing left-wing dissent. In the end, the film provocatively connects Pinochet to Saddam Hussein, implicating the US government as a key supporter of controversial regimes. Vazquez' amazing access to a range of candid interviews and deeply personal stories - from the Disappeared and those left behind, to those who tortured and the torture victims - traces a painful trail.

Rodrigo Vazquez will participate in a Q & A following the screenings.  

4 Nov 2003 @ 17:48 by istvan : A quote from one of todays papers
All that is possible only by and for the mentally handicapped American masses.
"For years, Democrats have been talking about how to reclaim "the Bubba vote." That's a reference to white working-class men who, among other things, attach Confederate flag stickers to the back windows of their pickup trucks. The flags are usually situated next to the image of a little Calvin urinating on another brand of truck."  

5 Nov 2003 @ 19:44 by Seb @ : RSS duplicates
Ming, for some reason I keep getting your "Jews" story in my aggregator - a new copy every hour.  

6 Nov 2003 @ 00:19 by ming : Duplicates
Oops, sorry about that. That would be enough to piss somebody off. I must be setting a change date whenever somebody leaves a comment to it, which is not how I intend for it to work.  

6 Nov 2003 @ 07:22 by Stefanti @ : War is Business
Well - since our economy as it is needs growth, it seems to be necessary to thrash some parts of the world once in a while in order to add some re-building business. War also means internal peace - as long as a nation is at war - especially the US- there tends to be little critique about the government. Which does not strike me in any way as overly reasonable because a lie remains a lie - war or not. And a government of crooks still consists of crooks when ot goes to war - or rather sends young and thoroughly indoctrinated people there who mainly entered in the Army because they needed a job or couldn't afford a proper education.

The situation surrounding President Bush I really do not understand. Everything is so damn obvious. The lies, the business interests, and there are tons of very strange news, facts and possible evidence about all sorts of contradictions that should cause some serious head scratching for everyone.

The so called war on terror begins to be an excuse for some to slowly set up a control scenario that Orwell could not even have dreamt up.  

6 Nov 2003 @ 09:38 by George Dafermos @ : true indeed, yet...
the original orwellian dystopia is not here yet, however, the first frontier is likely to be cyberspace due to its pervasive nature (cyberspace has no nature of course as it is an assemblage of software and hardware layers. but none can deny that cyberspace is creeping into our homes, work offices, electrical appliances, cars, and communities), or that's what i reckon anyway

two things i'd like to add, actually quotes from 1984, that have been on my mind ever since i read the book.

1. "if there's hope, winston wrote, it lies in the plones"
that's the way it is, and the way it should be. thus, the point i'm trying to make is that any action should be directed in empowering the masses, rather than a select elite of goood ole boys. the revolution, that winston so much wished for, could only come from the multitude.

2. "freedom is freedom to say that two plus two equals four. that granted, all else follows"
keep on saying it hard then ming!  

22 Aug 2016 @ 05:01 by National drink of Pakistan @ : Malik
A tragedy around Pakistan is constantly on the worsen when relief resources and guide fall far wanting what is called for. More guide is frantically needed as being the potential for scores of fatalities takes place to loom.  

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