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 Where are your thoughts2004-01-30 08:33
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Bad Signal:
"If you believe that your thoughts originate inside your brain -- do you also believe that television shows are made inside
your television set?"
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30 Jan 2004 @ 08:42 by jstarrs : Which begs the question...
'where are "you"?'  


30 Jan 2004 @ 11:48 by Bruce Kodish @24.205.69.22 : Brains and Televisions
I'll tell you what I don't believe: that my brain is a television set.  


30 Jan 2004 @ 13:31 by ming : Brains
So, one might take the view that a brain somehow originates thought and consciousness, or that a brain is more like a switchboard that something, which we might call consciousness, can flow through or organize itself through. I'm leaning towards the latter. Quite possibly the brain might have some quantum abilities, dealing with the quantum field. Science hasn't really gotten far in understanding much else than that parts of the brain seem to relate to certain functions, and that the reinforcing of neural pathways reinforce abilities, perceptions and habits. But not much of a clue of what it really does. Which is quite understandable if they start with the questionable assumption that all if does is arising from itself. A car drives and we can learn about what it does by studying it, but we'll have a strange, incomplete picture unless we consider who designed it, how it was built, and what it is being used for. Sure, if you pull out the spark plugs it doesn't run so well, and if you disconnect the steering it loses its ability to turn. Doesn't in any way tell us that those parts are what originated those capabilities.  


24 Aug 2004 @ 19:29 by QMAL @162.39.196.187 : Thought are not private
This is a particularly interesting statment to me; the belief that our thoughts originate in our own brains. Most people do believe that their thoughts are indeed their own. I believe some of them are, but taking look at my own experience, I would have to say that a large number of them are not. In the first obviously conscious telepathic experience I had with another person when I was a teenager, at the start of the experience,we, the two of us, realized that we were expiriencing the same thoughts at the same time. Seconds after that we realized that actually one of us would think a thought, then the other would think it again. We realized that transmision of thought had occured.Seconds after that we realized that, that the way the other person's thought manifested itself in our conscious was the same way that we manfested our own thoughts in our conscious minds. They felt the same, meaning they flowed through our minds the same way and all the thoughts came up the same way we always conducted thought. Only difference here was we had a few different ques to tell them apart ...sort of tag them. Well stopping here with the explanation of that experience, just this realization alone, was quite earth shaking. This meant that what we previously thought were our own thoughts, were not neccesarily our own, and we were in absolute awe of this. Kind of like unlearning everything we previously thought about the nature of commuication in general, between humans. Possibly between all life. This was quite different than our perception of just a few minutes before. The implications of this paradigm shift alone was just unbelivably astounding as this could mean that all consciousness that existed probably exchanged thoughts under the surface of consciousness all the time. We wondered just how many of the mental processes employed by minds, used this form of communication as an intregal part of the thinking process. So while I believe that thoughts do originate in the brain they obviously now are not limited to that brain or necessarily even originated by that brain. Realilty shifted for us at that moment. Thoughts are not private, or even stationary. In the type of communication we were experiencing at that time, thoughts we were exchanging were incredibly fluid, whole and transciental in nature. It made words seem incredibly inefficient , even useless and at that point we stopped using words in that experience. Since then I stopped believing that ANY of my thoughts were private and that of the things I might be thinking at any given point in time, might be, in part or whole, from someone else. This conceptually (thoughts are not private), has enormous implications to society at large. The idea scares the kajeebies out of people. The very fundamentals of human nature, and understanding it stand in quite a different light when accepting a paradigm where thoughts are of open source and origin. This understanding, an expanded veiw of basic communication and its properties, has completely changed my perception of the world around me and how it functions in the largest , and down to the smallest, levels of reality. From that piont on in my experience in life. As for the analogy to television, from where I am and can see, purports that we humans understand quite little of communication and some of the apparent underlying process contained therein. The type of thinking illuminated by this analogy is carried far and wide into every thing we do, into religion,science, economy, mass media.....on and on ..., and I say can be changed simply, easily by looking a little harder at where we seem to or want to, draw the lines for reality and perception.  


28 Dec 2005 @ 23:33 by Darren Allen @86.136.57.77 : Shared Thoughts
I'm glad somebody else thinks the way i do. Or was it merely the same thought shared at the same time.
For those of you that think this is complete tripe ask yourself this:-
Have you ever thought, "Wow that is such a great idea, somebody should do that" only for somebody to realise that idea 6 months or a year down the line?
I have.  



30 Nov 2006 @ 04:41 by grokCore @74.107.84.246 : Thoughts are one
Mind is one, it spells dimension. Let the mechanical mind chew on that.
Let it chew so hard it shuts up. When that happens, all the thoughts around will become clear.  



17 Jun 2008 @ 17:22 by Sivashanmugam. P @220.226.14.152 : Uniformatics
Thoughts neither origniate within the brain nor outside of the brain. Thoughts are universial.Nothing will be you if you cannot be thought as "part, whole, equivalence, uniqueness, link, limit, sensation, influence, origin, derivative, determinant, expression, intent, and fulfillment.
"Nothing will be me if I cannot be thought as "part, whole, equivalence, uniqueness, link, limit, sensation, influence, origin, derivative, determinant, expression, intent, and fulfillment."  



23 Jun 2008 @ 16:13 by derek damms @82.46.207.67 : the mind
after reading david ickes book "infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion"i think that reality is nothing like the way we imagine it.reality as we perceive it is only in our five senses and seems to be controlled through our dna. reality seems to be just in our heads.one theory says the universe is a giant hologram.  


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