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So, I continue to have a bit of fun with that webcam thing I did. In part because there still are several thousand people coming by looking at it every day. So I add a few improvements once in a while.

Mikel Maron made the nice suggestion that one could establish the more precise location of the different cams collaboratively, and then one could maybe do fun things like having them pop up on a world map or something. So, I added forms for people to correct or expand the information on each location. Like, if they know the city, or the name of the building, company, bridge, or whatever, they can type it in. And while I was at it, I added a comment feature.

OK, so, presto, instant collaboration. Within a couple of hours lots of helpful (or maybe bored) visitors had figured out where a bunch of these places were, and they had typed them in.

But, at the same time, what is going on is that these webcams seem terribly interesting to Chinese or Japanese speaking people. 70,000 people came from just one Japanese softcore porn news site who for some reason linked to it.

But then there's a slight, eh, communication problem here. Or language problem. Or character set problem. See, I've set it up so that the forms where you leave comments or update the info can take Unicode characters. So if somebody wants to type a comment in Japanese, they should be able to do that. And some people do. But the explanatory text on my page is in English. And it seems that a large number of people don't really have any clue what any of it says, but they have a certain compulsion to type things into any field that they see. So, if there's a button that leads to a form where you can correct the city of the camera, they'll click on it, and they'll enter (I suppose) their own information. Or they say Hi or something. See, I find it very mysterious what they actually are writing. It is for sure nothing like English. But it isn't what will appear as Chinese or Japanese characters either. Rather, it looks to me like what one would type if one was just entering some random test garbage, by quickly running one's fingers over a few adjacent keys. But the strange thing is that dozens and dozens of different people (with different IPs) are entering either very similar, or exactly the same, text. This kind of thing:

Facility: fdsfdfdsdsfd

City: dsfdsf

Yeah, I can type that with 3 fingers without moving my hand from the keyboard. But why would multiple people type exactly the same thing?? Does it say something common in Chinese?

Now, we have a bit of a cryptographic puzzle here. Notice that "Facility" (the name of the field) has twice as many letters as "City". And "fdsfdfdsdsfd" has twice as many letters as "dsfdsf". Consider the possibility that somebody might think they're supposed to enter the exact word they see into the field. Like some kind of access verification. And they use some kind of foreign character input method that encodes Latin characters as one and a half bytes. If so, I can't quite seem to decode the system.

Or, are we dealing with some kind of Input Method Editor (IME) that lets people form Chinese symbols by repetitive use of keys on a QWERTY keyboard? Anybody knows?

This is a bit like receiving signals from some alien civilization. Where's the signal in the noise? How might these folks have encoded their symbols, and what strange things might they be referring to? Are they friendly? dsfdsf?

Otherwise, if anybody here actually speaks Chinese or Japanese, could you give me a translation, preferably into the proper character set, of a sentence like: "This is the information for the camera location. Please do not enter your own personal information here!"

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26 Jan 2005 @ 01:25 by Andrius Kulikauskas @ : Key strokes?
Hi Flemming! Maybe it's a key stroke entry software. In Chinese the words are built from one syllable words, and typically there are twenty words (and characters) that all sound the same but mean different things. So there are different systems for entering the characters. One system might have you type in the key strokes in the order that you would draw a character. But a common system is to write a word phonetically and then choose from a list of characters that appear on your screen (listed in order of frequency). Perhaps for the selection you use your left hand. I guess I'm completely baffled but I just wanted to visit, say hi and leave that thought with you! Andrius  

26 Jan 2005 @ 10:49 by ming : Chinese Input
Yeah, I looked at some of the {link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_input_methods_for_computers|input methods} for Chinese characters. And, you're right, there are different systems, using 2-6 keystrokes for constructing a Chinese character. Some do it visually and some do it phonetically. And, yes, some of them involve choosing from a list of alternatives on the screen. But I so far couldn't match any of them to the patterns I see. There might be several methods at work, but the most common occurance is of characters from the middle left of a qwerty keyboard: asdfgh.  

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