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Thursday, October 17, 2002

The NewsLog of Flemming Funch
 Thursday, October 17, 20022002-10-17 22:46
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  • Woody Harrelson: I'm an American tired of American lies: "I am a father, and no amount of propaganda can convince me that half a million dead children is acceptable "collateral damage". The fact is that Saddam Hussein was our boy. The CIA helped him to power, as they did the Shah of Iran and Noriega and Marcos and the Taliban and countless other brutal tyrants. The fact is that George Bush Sr continued to supply nerve gas and technology to Saddam even after he used it on Iran and then the Kurds in Iraq."

    On what he would do if he were in Bush's shoes: "I'd honour Kyoto. Join the world court. I'd stop subsidising earth rapers like Monsanto, Dupont and Exxon. I'd shut down the nuclear power plants. So I already have $200bn saved from corporate welfare. I'd save another $100bn by stopping the war on non-corporate drugs. And I'd cut the defence budget in half so they'd have to get by on a measly $200bn a year. I've already saved half a trillion bucks by saying no to polluters and warmongers. Then I'd give $300bn back to the taxpayers. I'd take the rest and pay the people teaching our children what they deserve. I'd put $100bn into alternative fuels and renewable energy. I'd revive the Chemurgy movement, which made the farmer the root of the economy, and make paper and fuel from wheat straw, rice straw and hemp. Not only would I attend, I'd sponsor the next Earth Summit. And, of course, I'd give myself a fat raise."

  • A Wired reporter has his DNA scanned, to look for predisposition to disease. And his genetic ancestry examined. Interesting first-person account. We're getting close to Gattaca.

  • The ACLU has started a Media Campaign to challenge the U.S. Patriot Act.

  • Pravda has been publishing more and more UFO stories. Whitley Strieber thinks the Russians might be getting ready to take the veils off of what they know. It is probably more likely to come from there, even though there apparently is motion towards disclosure in the U.S. as well.

  • Paul Ray suggests a new political compass. Mainly he identifies a group of "new progressives". Hm, ok, maybe. Maybe there's such a group, but I'm not sure how much that helps. Really I think the political "spectrum" is totally bogus, and it takes a lot more than drawing the lines a little differently. The political left-right spectrum is just a way of giving people the same thing no matter which direction they turn, just with different flavors. A clever application of Hegelian Dialectism. It is centralized authority, no matter which direction you look. The left wants to control the money up front, so they can give it away; the right wants to control your mind, so that you'll give your money to their corporations and religions. I think it all needs to be rejected as a big scam. Or a Communist Plot if you will. I want freedom to think and talk and act like I feel is right, and I want to collaborate in community with other people to make our civilization work. There's no place on the political spectrum for that.

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    17 Oct 2002 @ 22:58 by koravya : The News from NewCiv
    Keeps me well informed.
    Thank you.  

    17 Oct 2002 @ 23:45 by ming : Congratulations
    ... you made comment number 1000 in my NewsLog. And, thanks.  

    18 Oct 2002 @ 11:57 by quidnovi : That'll make mine 1001, then :-)


    19 Oct 2002 @ 07:46 by martha : bummer
    Tried to down load Bonzibuddy. Than I looked at the system requirments. Got any cats, Mac compatible?  

    22 Oct 2002 @ 11:06 by sharie : reducing U.S. military budget
    It seems like a great idea to reduce military spending and to use the money to end hunger worldwide, to provide housing to the homeless, and other humanitarian causes but here's the problem:

    if you stop paying the aeronautical engineers, and the corporate officers and multi-millionaire board members, they'll offer their services to the highest bidder: China, Iraq... and then what?  

    22 Oct 2002 @ 12:22 by ming : livingry not weaponry
    Well, the deal ought to be to get those smart people to put their minds to the above problems, rather than to the problems of how to make better bombs. Yes, of course they need something to do. But I think they'd probably be more happy working on the actual problems of the world, and being paid just as well.  

    23 Oct 2002 @ 17:16 by sharie : Well then, that's the answer.
    How do we get the weapons engineers, the aeronautical engineers, the corporate executives and corporate investors to take the jobs feeding the poor and housing the homeless?

    We simply make it more profitable (by taxpayer dollars I suppose), but then we get thousands of money-grubbing status-seeking millionaires working for the poor...

    I do think this is a good idea, Ming, but how can we really get it to work?

    First of all, we've got to make wars unprofitable!

    Thanks for replying to my comment above.

    I hope you have some ideas for this one.

    23 Oct 2002 @ 20:08 by ming : Making war unprofitable
    Hm, well, I guess we need to understand what makes war profitable. And it ought to be a little surprising that war is so profitable at first, since it mostly consists of using some very expensive hardware to destroy some more expensive real estate and some irreplacable human beings.

    So, we need some educational devices for showing everybody the real economics of how war is profitable and for whom. Obviously it is not for the people who's stuff gets destroyed. But it is for the people who build the hardware, and for the people who's markets are manipulated favorably by the selective destroying of stuff and the selective removal of certain people. Bombing Iraq and removing Saddan Hussein will ensure plenty of oil to sell in the U.S. market for many years to come. The U.S. government, the American people, the Iraqi government, the Iraqi people, none of them get anything out of it, other than high costs and destruction. But those who want to sell the oil, and who want to preempt alternatives to oil, for them it is pure profits.

    So, preempting them, by removing the need for oil, would remove that reason for war. E.g. widespread, viable, cheap, compelling energy production that makes fossil fuels look ridiculous. Same thing with other raw materials that require control of certain areas of land.

    And if we could think of a way of making it profitable to feed the poor and homeless... It probably would be profitable from a whole systems view, and a long view, but business isn't run that way. Hmm...  

    24 Oct 2002 @ 12:23 by sharie : war propaganda = pocketing public funds
    I think war is profitable because government propaganda gets the people - the masses - to believe it's patriotic (and necessary for national defense) ... so the people empty out their pockets for the weapons, when meanwhile the government (George W Bush, George Bush, Sr., V.P. Dick Cheney, his wife Lynne Cheney, ad nauseum,) own stock in the weapons companies, so they're going to make huge personal profits off the war, so I can't believe one word any of them says about any of our so-called enemies and I can't believe one word any of them says about the necessity of war because they are personally profiting.

    We've budgeted how many billions for weapons?

    And Bush & Cheney owns what percentage of the stock in weapons companies?

    "Real educational tools for showing everybody the real economics of how war is profitable and for whom."

    Graphs, charts, websites... movies, music... ?

    The insider trading alone is enough to put these criminals in prison.

    I can't help the feeling that there's more to this Iraq thing than oil or money... then I found this:


    He suggests it's because Saddam Hussein has interferred with the Bush family/U.N. objective of a New World Order, world control.


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