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 Free Thought the simplicity of life2007-03-21 14:45
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by Flemming Funch

Graviton Ring:
The spirit, in my opinion, is VERY simple. Are you aware of yourself and of others? That awareness is your spirit. It had no beginning. It has no ending. No one gave it to you. No one can take it away. It has always existed exactly as it does now, and it always will exist exactly as it is now. It never goes anywhere. There is no place to go. The spirit of awareness simply is the way any sentient being observes reality. The spirit is not physical in any way. It observes the physical reality.

The physical reality is completely different than the spirit, however, the spirit and the physical reality cannot exist without each other. The human body, or any aspect of the physical reality, obviously appears and disappears, while changing constantly. The spirit simply observes these changes. There are an infinite set of changes in the physical reality. There are also an infinite set of new ideas in the spiritual reality. The only thing required to do is pay attention to reality.

If there is any need for a moral structure in religion or society, then the laws of such a structure are always about the physical reality. How could any laws tell anyone how to think, or how to see reality. The spirit of awareness does not need any laws, it does not do anything except see the physical reality. The human body needs laws, moral values, maybe a structured society when there is a large number of humans alive. However, that was not always the case. Life was meant to be simple.

The simplicity of life is that we consist of a spirit of awareness. The physical reality seems to be a part of who we are, however, the spirit, in my opinion, is the actual way we are. The physical reality, including the human body, appears and disappears, and evolves over billions of years. The spirit simply continues to do what it does now, it observes these changes. There are no spiritual laws. Laws are about humanity and physical reality. Spirit is simply infinite, eternal awareness.
I see it in very similar ways. The physical world is always changing, everything is temporary, but in some kind of evolution. But, yet, no matter what, I always seem to be there to observe it. And that *me* doesn't seem to change. Oh, I've learned things, changed how I do things, etc, but the me who observes, it is the same as it always has been. I'm maybe a little more awake, but my awareness seems to be the same as it was at any time I can remember. We can call that awareness, consciousness, spirit, or whatever. It is a bit mysterious what that really is, and how that came about, but the only satisfying explanation is that at least it isn't just a side-effect of a physical phenomenon. It would suck if I were just a brain, but luckily I don't think I am, and I don't think that I as a point of awareness arise from the physical. Oh, I'm tightly interwoven with it, for sure. Most of what I do and think involves physical stuff, and the filters of my brain, and what I've experienced. My identity is some kind of mix of these things. But the pure awareness seems to be something eternal.

And, yes, things go a bit crazy when humans try to control and regulate how one thinks and how one is supposed to see things. The wires get crossed a bit. Physical reality needs organization and regulation to some extent. But when you try to control the consciousness of others, it generally isn't with their best interest in mind. And generally it starts with convincing others that they don't really exist, and their thoughts are just government or church property, and just random neural signals in the first place.


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21 Mar 2007 @ 21:58 by gravitonring : hi Garsett, and ming!
thanks for the thoughtful comments!

Garsett, i meant the only thing awareness does is pay attention...
so the yin-yang, the physical and spiritual, are knitted together :)
of course, we can get distracted from our awareness physically :)
i agree with Alan Watts that physical stuff includes our humanity;
our tangible 'self' is knitted together with the whole universe;
our intangible awareness is knitted together with all observers;
the infinite intangible is knitted into the infinite tangibility;
as in the Lakota saying 'Mitakuye Oyasin,' 'We are all related'

the Lakota saying is at http://www.earthdance.org and elsewhere :)  



21 Mar 2007 @ 23:48 by ming : Knitting
>our tangible 'self' is knitted together with the whole universe;
>our intangible awareness is knitted together with all observers;
>the infinite intangible is knitted into the infinite tangibility;

Wow, that's deep.  



22 Mar 2007 @ 04:35 by gravitonring : healthy antigonism
all that knitting should include healthy antigonism :) especially between father and son, mothers seem to do the knitting :) the only passage in Christian Biblical literature that i relate to is in Psalms 'Thou hast knitted me together in my mother's womb' my mother knitted incessantly for seventy years and produced thousands of toys and items for hundreds of people :) my parents and i maintained a lot of healthy antigonism about the nature of life, i was a scientist, they were superstitionists, however, they always communicated with a down to earth affection that endeared them to everyone...her presence was actually visible to me AFTER she died :) it was a pale golden light which surrounded me for about twenty minutes, six months after her death, then after my father's death his influence was more tangible, in the middle of winter on the day of his funeral, there was an eighty degree F temperature, when the normal Pittsburgh PA winter is quite cold...  


22 Mar 2007 @ 04:47 by a-d : Spirit; (Cosmic & Creative Energy)
does follow strict Cosmic Rules!.... of which the very first is Divine Order!...
Without that atoms & other Cosmic things would start to fall apart -and indeed do in individualized Energy Vortexes anything from billions of Stars consisting Galaxies to mosquitos & smaller -and us humans somewhere in between. ; ) But for the Universe, so to speak, Divine Order is an absolute necessity.
Maybe THAT is what the Buddha meant when speaking about Nirvana, who knows; the Stillness in this "The World of Absolute"; the GodHead (+ all the rest of names we have for That) -in- stillness, observing Itself... Just a thought! : ) What does your gut-feeling think/say about this?

.....an' I luuuv to knit with gorgeous Yarns! ; ) hehehheeh.... ( couldn't resist!... : ) ))  



23 Mar 2007 @ 01:00 by gravitonring : my gut is trying to digest DOTS gumdrops
hi Astrid Ware, Columbia Falls, Montana, USA, whose message is:
To assist in co-creating Heaven On Earth, FAIR and FREE for ALL. Only with enough of Like Minded friends can we achieve this!
////////////////////////////////////////////////////

i got stuck in Montana during a snow fall in October 2005, it had rained every day for over a week, and all the deer were turned into red paint covering the highways! ten inches of snow was expected in a few hours, so i turned my Hertz rental car due south and nearly got wiped out by the eighteen wheelers splashing
all the rain on my windshield every fifteen seconds i was blinded by the splash
and there were a bunch of antelopes grazing along with the whitetails LESS THAN A YARD off the highway with no guard rails...i thought to myself: 'HEY SOMEONE FORGOT TO FINISH BUILDING MONTANA!' :)

i believe that there are available an infinite set of points of view, from our intangible awareness to our physical astigmatism :) i plan to try ALL of them for the next eternity or so...i am sure i will try your POV soon enough :) hmmm
Divine Order ??? Alan Watts said we are the Divine, we just forgot about our Divinity so we can have some spontaneous human and other POVs for a while :)

as far as Cosmic things having physical integrity, i suspect we were once tiny strings of energy, and we just grew LIKE TOPSY, into a massive bunch of strings
called a human, however, maybe there are some new harmonic vibrations in the next eternity that could change us into some other entity, which could be tiny or massive, with a different POV than human, so i think potentially we are already capable of imagining what our next manifestation might be, i could be a
binary star in the next Nirvana, which i think Buddha was calling the ability to live with no desires to be someone else or somewhere else, just without such desires and seeing the current POV as it is now...which seems to be an infinite
set of potential POVs ???

gravitonring  



23 Mar 2007 @ 15:15 by a-d : Yupp, gravitonring,
that's the one thing i really dislike about MT; the roads & the traffic here....
HOW can two States be so different??? In Washington it's wonderful to drive, indeed, most States feel better & safer visavi the/ir traffic than MT! Go figure. NO, I don't think it relates to the Free Spirit of Montanans! ; ).... Nor is it in any manner a reflexion of Divine Order! heheheh... that much I have gathered! : )
Have a Lovely Weekend, all. /A-d  



24 Mar 2007 @ 01:11 by gravitonring : wow a-d i think i see a parallel here :)
so in wash state there is bill gates etc...order and road signs and all that jazz...but my theory works then in the big sky cuz that is a whole different perspective...a MUCH freer POV...75 miles per hour apparently unenforced...then Wyoming 65 miles per hour apparently enforced...the difference to the deer was at 75 plus mph the deer are vaporized into red paint, at 65 mph, one leg here another leg there...the head picked up mounted and sold on ebay :)  


23 Apr 2007 @ 15:22 by rayon : Selves?
Tangible selves are knitted with the observers - surely? you mean?
and likeways: -
Intangible selves knitted with the universe?

The life tussle to regain the both is thus explained with this alternative matching?

The irrefutable awareness is the one eternal with the universe (in optimum conditions)(lucky Ming). Though the tangible of physical changes (mostly due to others) we (the awareness) do not. Here is ever so Curtly shown the severance, and the huge inherent love required to bridge such existence over this abyss which no doubt is carried on out instantly to the closest to hand. :) thank you! Gravy and Ming!  



7 May 2007 @ 10:01 by Micky @220.245.178.139 : Holy Spirit
About 3 years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I imagine I was going through some sort of metamorphosis [mental, physical & spiritual]. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time. I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staff was very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th September 1994, but my fear, pain & shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] & my process would start up again [fear, pain, & shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified]. I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me & forgive me my sins. Slowly, all my fear has dissipated & I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic & the Holy Spirit is my friend & strength; every day since then has been a joy & blessing. I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy & peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages [England & Australia]. God LOVES me so much. Fear, pain, & shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17].

Peace Be With You
Micky  



28 Apr 2016 @ 13:47 by Aspen @188.143.232.32 : XvsBOWJuCZiolsc
Yeah that's what I'm talking about bab-c-niye work!  


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