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 NCN call for donations2007-02-16 21:57
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One of the main sites on my server is the New Civilization Network. NCN is a community site that has existed since 1995. The site itself is sorely in need of a modernisation, and the group dynamics amongst members doesn't always work great. But, nevertheless, in the longterm view, this has been a very important site, and something still works, the site still has a reason to be, and it serves as home for quite a number of people.

In principle I'm very happy to support the existence of a network like that in terms of server space, and not just because I created it. But I sometimes forget that there are costs involved in running a server, and I tend to not get around to asking for contributions, even when they are needed, and when people wouldn't mind giving them.

So, this is basically a reminder that donations for server costs are very welcome. For NCN members, there's a link on the start page in the member area. For others, PayPal donations to ffunch -at- worldtrans.org are always welcome.

Server costs for this one server are around $100 per month. There are other non-profit activities on the same server. There isn't really much else. You'll find sites such as the International Society for the Systems Sciences, Art of Living, Spirit Rising, OneWorld Flag, We need a dream, Inside Universe, and others. Some of them pay me occasionally for providing server space, but it is basically a gift economy. Meaning, I don't really ask for anything, but I welcome donations.

As to NCN, it doesn't really have an enormous amount of traffic. But I think a lot of people would be unhappy if it wasn't there. Including, of course, the couple of hundred people who have blogs here, but also other members, and many visitors. So, feel free to contribute something, if you feel like it, and you're able to. A few people do on a regular basic, but very few, like less than 5.

And, again, I hate asking for donations, and I probably wouldn't do so if a few people hadn't poked at me a little bit.


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17 Feb 2007 @ 05:53 by freo7 : OH MING I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS!!
I will donate to keep it the same!! If it ain't BROKE don't fix it ming!
Trust me you will be very sorry... How about polling all existing active members?
You must have a lot of dead weight here if we have THIS MANY MEMBERS
and only that many posts each day...NO?? TIME 2 WAKE UP folks!! [link]  



17 Feb 2007 @ 09:08 by Tim @80.1.224.12 : Change / Evolution
I can see how NCN would benefit from both cosmetic and structural changes to bring it up to speed. Yet I know how much work is involved even on small CMS-like system to bring these about. I think it's fair that you should at least ask for donations (as you have done).  


17 Feb 2007 @ 11:59 by ming : Evolution
Yes, well, no reason to fix it if it ain't broken. But some things have a look that, although not broken, isn't necessarily attractive to new people. And some things, despite that they work, work in a way that creates conflicts in places where they didn't need to be. The pattern that things are organized in creates certain expectations and certain dynamics, some of which work, and some of which don't.

And, yes, part of it is that a lot of people have signed up over the years, 12 years, and the way things are organized, that seems a bit like dead weight, because they show on various listings, but most of them aren't there. It would be like that for hotmail, or just about any site that people freely can sign up for, but it doesn't have to be a problem.  



17 Feb 2007 @ 12:23 by jazzolog : Pretending Not To Listen
to the conversation of this thread (after cheerfully Paypalling my donation). Talk of site renovation/renewal/surveying/dreams of pie fresh out of the skyoven only brings back my blind staggers phobia. Who says it ain't broke?  


17 Feb 2007 @ 15:26 by ming : Broken
Well, not me. I think it could use some fixing. But since I haven't done much fixing for quite some time, I'm not gonna make any promises this time. Anyway, thank you for your donations.  


17 Feb 2007 @ 22:35 by A Sorel @202.67.92.75 : Alternate donation method
Give another donation option (beside Paypal) and I'd donate.  


18 Feb 2007 @ 00:06 by ming : Alternate donations
Alright, Amazon Honor System. Or moneybookers to ffunch -at- cr8.com.  


18 Feb 2007 @ 12:43 by jmarc : how about cash
got a snail mail address? Some of us are still operating on a cash basis in this new civilization. Help clear the way for some crisp new Americano Dollars to make their way to your mailbox, and give us a 3d address to mail them to.  


18 Feb 2007 @ 13:45 by ming : Cash
Cash is good too. Address: Flemming Funch, 31 Avenue Latécoère, 31520 Ramonville, France.  


21 Feb 2007 @ 14:47 by jmarc : ok
Just mailed it. The lady at the post Office says 4 to 7 days. So you may want to check the mail box in a few days.
What a relief. I can now pass by these donation requests with absolutely no guilt, assuming the honesty of the postal workers between here and there. If you can let me know when it arrives and if it is intact, I would greatly appreciate it.
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"The only pre-requisite for starting this journey of discovery is that you are willing to learn. If you realize that there is something there to learn, then you can learn it. If you realize that there are things you have not yet understood about yourself and about life, then you can understand them. What you will learn might be unexpected and surprising, but that is the nature of discovery."
-Flemming Funch  



21 Feb 2007 @ 19:27 by ming : Donation
Did I really write that? Thanks for the donation, and I'm glad you're relieved of all feelings of guilt.  


21 Feb 2007 @ 19:44 by jmarc : did you write that?
I get that same feeling when I go back and look at stuff I've written.
Yeah, it's from your tranformational proccessing page. So, I guess you did.

Oh, and wrong thread, I know, but would Fermi's paradox be a paradox if we are the aliens? Just a thought.  



21 Feb 2007 @ 20:54 by A Sorel @219.89.127.121 : Amazon Honor
Donation just made via Amazon (max is $50.. can it be changed?)  


21 Feb 2007 @ 23:28 by ming : Amazon
I think it is fixed like that, meant for relatively small donations, apparently. Thanks!  


21 Feb 2007 @ 23:36 by ming : Writing
When I write something, I'm usually not quite sure whether it is good or not, but sometimes when I run into something I've written much later, I can much better appreciate it.

Ha, yes, if we're aliens, there's no paradox. Maybe we're all from somewhere else.  



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